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Citroen DS5
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Debut: 2011
Maker: Citroen
Predecessor:
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Published
on 19
Nov 2011
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All rights reserved.
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It all started from
DS3
two years ago. Citroen got tired of building cut-price bread-and-butter
cars and decided to invade the premium car segments long occupied by
German manufacturers. The concept of DS3 is not much different from
what Mini and
Fiat 500 already demonstrated – it offered a funkier styling, better
quality materials, a highly customizable interior and a sporty tuning
so that it could ask for more money. The first attempt was successful,
with 130,000 DS3s sold in just over a year. But the larger members of
the DS range are unlikely to be as easy. Having left the supermini
segment, they have to face the superior offerings from Audi and BMW (as
well as high-spec Volkswagens). Chances of success are slim. The only
way to avoid direct competition with the German is to be different.
Consequently, we saw the odd hatchback-coupe-SUV crossover DS4 earlier
this year. Unfortunately, we found it not as satisfying as the smaller
DS. Its concept was probably right, but the execution was below
standard and the car leaves many things to be desired.
Anyway, we are willing to give Citroen a second chance. The new DS5 is
the third and – at least according to current plan – the last member of
the DS line. Its success or not will seal our conclusion on the DS line
revival.
Before going into the details, we have to ask a fundamental question:
what exactly is the DS5 ? Its name and its looks might suggest it was a
premium MPV version of the C5 saloon. How wrong that is ! The DS5 is
neither an MPV
nor a derivative of C5. It is actually a large, high-riding premium
hatchback with some sporty flavours. It is not built
on the C5 / 508 platform, but the stretched version of PSA's BVH2
platform that underpins the smaller C4, DS4 and 3008. This decision is
strange, because the car is actually positioned higher than C5 on the
price list. Bear in mind that the family hatch platform comes with an
unsophisticated torsion-beam rear suspension, a clear disadvantage
compare with the C5's multi-link geometry and Hydractive system. We'll
know what this mean later on, but to Citroen the immediate effect is
lower production cost. The money saved is invested back into the car to
improve its materials and build quality, boosting its showroom appeal.
It also makes possible to share the 3008's Hybrid 4 powertrain. The
latter actually gives it a psychological edge over its German rivals.
From this view, the use of BVH2 platform might make sense.
Yes, the DS5 does have very strong showroom appeal. It is aggressive
yet futuristic, something you can't imagine achievable on a car of this
type. British designer Andrew Cowell gave it plenty of smart features,
such as a Mercedes CLS-inspired profile (see that swoopy roof line and
banana-shape side glass), hidden rear pillars, stylish head and tail
lights, C-shape front side intakes, pentagonal exhaust pipes and its
signature, i.e. a chromed "saber" running from the nose to the front
quarter window. It looks really special, more so than DS4 and DS3. With
its presence, BMW 3-series and Audi A4 suddenly look dull and ordinary.
The DS5 has its wheelbase stretched to 2727 mm, some 115 mm longer than
DS4. It is also 255 mm longer overall, 51 mm wider and slightly lower,
so it has a sportier profile. However, interior space is a little
disappointing. As you sit higher than conventional cars (40 mm higher
than C5), headroom at the driver seat cannot be described as generous,
something you won't expect on a car so tall. Rear seat headroom could
be tight for six-footers, blame to the falling roof line. Meanwhile,
the broad shoulders and thick doors rob the cabin of considerable
width, so it won't be great to sit 3 adults at the back. Having said
that, forget its MPV profile and recalibrate it with the norm of BMW
3-series, you will find the space offered here is competitive.
However, the highlight of this cabin is not space but style and
quality. The sense of class is obvious from the stylish leather seats
and leather upholstery on the dash, armrest and steering wheel. The
instrument display is a high quality one, ditto the head-up display and
switchgears. The door's grab handles are even made of real aluminum by
the same supplier to Aston Martin. The whole dashboard, not just the
upper half, is made of soft-touch plastics. The same goes for the door
panels and just about any touchable surfaces. Just like the exterior,
the cabin is high on style. The panoramic glass roof is split by a
central tunnel which houses some cool-looking switches, just like
aircraft cockpit. The prominent transmission tunnel separates the
driver from the passenger and is decorated with stylish bright metal
works. In short, this place matches the high standard of Audi.
Style and visual quality are definitely the highlights of DS5. What
about the mechanicals? In terms of powertrains, it is quite satisfying.
You won't find very powerful engines as in BMW and Audi, but the
engines it offers are well judged and should cover 90 percent of the
market – after all, very few customers actually purchase the most
powerful 335i or A4 3.2 V6. The trend towards socially responsible
motoring also helps PSA, as its strength has always been small turbo
diesel motors. The 163 hp 2.0HDI loses nothing to German opponents. It
is refined, torquey and economical. The 155hp 1.6THP direct-injected
petrol turbo is also a match to small German motors, because it is
originally developed by BMW. The 200 horsepower version of the same
motor comes directly from DS3 Racing. Citroen's specific tuning
supplements its useful performance with a sporty howl at wide open
throttle. It gets from rest to 60 mph in less than 8 seconds and is
capable to top 146 mph. Most motorists should be satisfied. Gearchange
from the 6-speed manual is slick and quick.
And then at the top is the Hybrid 4. In our Peugeot 3008 Hybrid 4
report we have already detailed its principles and mechanical
construction. The version on Citroen is virtually the same. Its power
comes primarily from the 163 hp 2.0 HDI engine, which drives the front
wheels as usual. At the back, a 37hp / 147 lbft electric motor drives
the rear wheels directly without any mechanical connection (save the
road surface) to the diesel powertrain. It is supplied by a NiMH
battery. All the hybrid components are mounted near the rear axle so
that the system is easily transplantable. The Hybrid 4 is not as quick
as the 200 hp 1.6 turbo, because it carries a lot more weight and its
electric boost is not sustainable. However, the electric boost does
make it feels brisk off the line, and the lack of noise at low speed
feels remarkably refined and Sci-Fi like. Moreover, CO2
emission is reduced to only 99 g/km.
For a tall, high-riding luxury car made by a French manufacturer, you
might expect a clumsy handling and lots of body motion in corners.
Contrary to prediction, the DS5 is quite sporty in the way it
suppresses body roll and understeer. This must thanks to its wide
tracks and stiff suspension setup. The strong grip from aggressive
235/40R19 rubbers and strong braking also impress. Still, the handling
is more competent than entertaining, because the steering feels numb
(despite of electro-hydraulic assistance) and the chassis lacks
throttle adjustability. An adverse effect of the stiff legs and
waffle-thin tires is a poor ride. On anything less than smooth
surfaces, the DS5 feels fidget. Bigger bumps and potholes send
unacceptable shocks into the cabin. This contradicts to the
sophisticated environment or the excellent wind noise suppression.
Things might get a little better with 16 or 17-inch wheels, but they
fail to fill the large wheel wells enough for the best visual effect.
Undoubtedly, ride quality is the biggest problem of this car.
Should Citroen had adopted a more sophisticated rear suspension from
the outset, the problem could have been largely relieved, if not
completely eliminated. The Hybrid 4 is the only DS5 riding on fully
independent multi-link rear axle, because the regular car's
torsion-beam suspension fails to accommodate the additional rear-drive
components. It does deliver a better ride than lesser models. Anyway,
those expecting a magic-carpet ride of traditional French luxury cars
will be disappointed. As we have mentioned before, the lack of
Hydractive suspension does not favour the DS5.
As a result, the DS5 could split opinions. On the one hand, its styling
turns heads and its quality packaging feels highly desirable. On the
other hand, its handling is dull and its ride is flawed. If you
regularly drive on poorly surfaced roads, this car should be eliminated
from your radar. Otherwise, it could be a desirable purchase. It is so
different from other cars on the market, and the guts to be different
are always highly honored here in AutoZine. |
Verdict:
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Published
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May 2015
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DS5 facelift 2015
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Following the new
strategy to spin off the DS line as a separate premium brand, the 2015
facelifted DS5 is no longer a Citroen officially. Normally I don't care
about badges, but having seen the new DS logo at its nose, I think
Citroen has underestimated the aesthetic brought by the old
double-chevron logo. The new logo actually makes it less special.
Moreover, I think the facelift is rather counterproductive. It makes
the front grille thinner thus visually pushes it upward, making the
high bonnet looks even higher. As a result, the facelifted car appears
to be bulkier and more like a minivan. Fortunately, the original DS5
has plenty of style for expense. Turn to the sides and rear and you
will still find a stylish crossover.
PSA said the interior is also updated, but it is so subtle that you
need to compare with the old car to notice the differences. This is
still a stylish and luxury design, supported with adequate materials
and switchgears. The chunky transmission tunnel and center console is
still a highlight, but the 7-inch touchscreen looks too small in
comparison.
To meet the requirement of EU6 emission regs, most engines have been
updated slightly. The 1.6 HDI now produces 120 instead of 115 hp. The
high-power version of 2.0 HDI makes 180 instead of 163 hp. 1.6 THP
petrol remains but its output is improved slightly from 156 to 165 hp,
just like what we can find on other PSA vehicles recently. At the end
of this year the high-power version of 1.6 THP will have its output
lifted from 200 to 210 hp. Hybrid4 is the only unchanged powertrain, as
it is still a niche and rare choice. On the transmission side, good
news is the notorious robotic manual is finally replaced with an Aisin
6-speed automatic.
All these changes are "stop-gap" at best. However, the most important
improvement brought by the facelift is revised suspension setup. The
old car had always been criticized for a crashy ride. To address this,
PSA increased its suspension travel a little and fitted new dampers to
the suspensions. These dampers employ longer compression stroke and
preloaded linear valving to enable smoother transition of damping
force. The result? The ride is a lot smoother. Bumps and potholes are
much better dealt with. Although it is still far from magic carpet, the
ride quality is no longer an issue to stop people buying this car.
Meanwhile, this improvement does not come at the expense of body
control.
That said, the DS5 no longer catches my heart with its new front end
design and badge. Now judging with heads instead of hearts, we can see
more of its flaws, such as tight rear seats, overweight and lack of
driver appeal compared with a conventional hatchback.
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DS5
2.0HDi
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2011
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Front-engined,
FWD |
Steel monocoque |
Mainly steel |
4530 / 1871 / 1508 mm |
2727 mm |
Inline-4, diesel
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1997 cc |
DOHC 16 valves |
VTG turbo
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CDI |
163 hp
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251 lbft
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6-speed manual |
F: strut
R: torsion-beam
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215/60VR16 |
1530 kg
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123 mph (c) |
8.3 (c) / 9.1*
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26.5* |
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DS5
1.6THP 200
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2011
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Front-engined,
FWD |
Steel monocoque |
Mainly steel |
4530 / 1871 / 1508 mm |
2727 mm |
Inline-4
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1598 cc |
DOHC 16 valves, DVVT, VVL
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Turbo
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DI |
200 hp
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203 lbft
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6-speed manual |
F: strut
R: torsion-beam
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235/40VR19 |
1430 kg
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146 mph (c) |
7.7 (c)
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DS5 Hybrid 4
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2011
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Front-engined,
e-4WD |
Steel monocoque |
Mainly steel |
4530 / 1871 / 1508 mm |
2727 mm |
Inline-4, diesel + electric motor
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1997 cc |
DOHC 16 valves |
VTG turbo
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CDI |
Engine: 163 hp
Motor: 37 hp
Combined: 200 hp
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Engine: 221 lbft
Motor: 147 lbft
Combined: 369 lbft
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6-speed automated manual |
F: strut
R: multi-link
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225/50VR17 |
1660 kg
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131 mph (c) |
8.1 (c)
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Performance
tested by: *Autocar
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DS5 1.6THP 165
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2015
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Front-engined,
FWD |
Steel monocoque |
Mainly steel |
4530 / 1871 / 1505 mm |
2727 mm |
Inline-4
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1598 cc |
DOHC 16 valves, VVT
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Turbo
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DI |
165 hp
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177 lbft
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6-speed automatic |
F: strut
R: torsion-beam
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225/50R17 |
1429 kg
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126 mph (c) |
8.9 (c)
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DS5 2.0HDi 180
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2015
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Front-engined,
FWD |
Steel monocoque |
Mainly steel |
4530 / 1871 / 1505 mm |
2727 mm |
Inline-4, diesel
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1997 cc |
DOHC 16 valves |
VTG turbo
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CDI |
180 hp
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295 lbft
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6-speed automatic
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F: strut
R: torsion-beam
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225/50R17 |
1540 kg
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137 mph (c) |
8.7 (c)
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Performance
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by Mark Wan @ AutoZine
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